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[Gmecm] Tuning a larger MAF on L98
- Subject: [Gmecm] Tuning a larger MAF on L98
- From: mp at FlowersByValerie.com (Mike Poore)
- Date: Tue Sep 27 17:06:06 2005
- In-reply-to: <001301c5c369$24c7e670$6701a8c0@fci9bo2ay5h5y8>
- References: <4338DDB2.6060607@FlowersByValerie.com> <001301c5c369$24c7e670$6701a8c0@fci9bo2ay5h5y8>
I do have Excel and would love to look at what you have done. Unless
Mastertune and GME label it differently, there doesn't seem to be a MAF
table on the 85 prom. Maybe the software doesn't let you edit it. I am
confused by some of the descriptions. My first goal is to remove the
hesitation and see how it runs after that. Would I want to decrease the
point at which the tps triggers full throttle? On carbs there was an
accelerator pump. What's the equivalent on a tpi? The wide band O2 makes
sense. You are definitely right about the ecm data being worthless for
tuning.
Mark Romans wrote:
> Hi Mike: Do you have excel? I have done some work with re-scaling
> the maf.
> I have a ported maf that flows almost 800 cfm and with that flow
> capacity being about
> 30% greater than stock, I rescaled my maf tables by 30% and told the
> ecm that the injectors were
> 30% smaller to compensate for the fuel side. I also had to modify my
> LV8 scaler. If you are interested
> I can send you a copy of the bin and the spread sheet.
>
> I ended up having issues with leaking AIR tubes letting excess 02 into
> the headers and throwing off my
> calibrations. So righgt now I am runnng a more stock calibration.
>
> I am running 89 software though. Also with the 85 ecm the baud rate
> is so slow it's impossible to see
> anything that the ecm is doing. Even the 89 with 8192 baud is too
> slow to catch a lot of stuff.
> The only way you will be able to tune is by using a separate wide band
> 02 meter with datalogging.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Poore" <mp@FlowersByValerie.com>
> To: <gmecm@diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:50 PM
> Subject: [Gmecm] Tuning a larger MAF on L98
>
>
>> I have a heavily modified 85 L98 engine. I fabricated a new MAF
>> housing and ducting from the throttle body to the air cleaner. I
>> removed the oem sensor from its housing and installed it in my
>> fabricated one. I don't have the exact measurements handy, but the
>> new MAF will flow about double the stick unit. The engine idles well,
>> but has a severe hesitation when opening the throttle. The faster you
>> open the throttle the worse the hesitation. Obviously, it needs more
>> fuel, but what is the best way to compensate?
>>
>> 1. Increase fuel enrichment, or
>> 2. Modify the MAF to better reflect actual flow.
>>
>> I have Mastertune and GME for editing. I am trying to figure out what
>> exactly I need to change to get more fuel when the throttle opens.
>> Any advice?
>>
>> I looked at modifying the output of the MAF. My understanding is that
>> as airflow increases, so does voltage. If the new MAF housing has
>> fifty percent more area than old, how much do I raise the voltage?
>> Any suggestions on how to send a voltage to the ecm that more
>> accurately reflects air flow. Ideally, something adjustable would be
>> great. I wish I knew more about electronic circuits because this is
>> probably very easy. I also think that this would the better approach
>> because it should not require so many other prom agjustments.
>>
>> Thanks for any input,
>>
>> Mike
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