Hi Jeff the PB-10 is also available for $90. as a refurb. but you will have to ask at the factory also the "Rommaster -II is available as a refurb @ $130.00 plus shipping I ahve been doin some checking and my Partner and I have settled on the "Rommaster-II" as the best bang for the buck!! U can find the Rommaster-II at http://www.generaldevice.com/