Re: Ho ho ho Bin library

[Bob Valentine <bob@tecmark.com>]

If the aftermarket cals are made available, next thing will be the lawers
calling about copyright or trademark infringment.  Remember the
Diacom-clone cable flame-war mess few months ago?

Given the R&D put into bins by GM, a comparison of stock bins would
probably be more informative than stock to aftermarket which are more or
less a unknown quantity. 

-> Bob Valentine
-> bob@tecmark.com

At 10:15 PM 10/2/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>Wull, however you want it Bruce.....
>
>But,  I would tend to think that a library of stock OE CAL's in close
>proximity to a similar nearby library (seperately labelled of course) of
>CAL's associated with, or related to, or referenced to the above would be
>helpful to newbies in the sense that people could independantly seek out
>firsthand illustrations of ..........1)what the pro's take your money for
>[in equivalent applications], or..........2)what the real die-hard
>enthusiasts/homegrowers have accomplished/tried and found to work (or not to
>work) with specific applications, with specific CAL's.
>
>One does not have to preclude the other, but instead they can co-exist as
>contrasting examples. Kind of an illustratrative tutorial supplement to
>"Tunung 101", but certainly no replacement.
>
>Often new people starting out mostly need a "sanity check" once in awhile
>(ie: the student says.........I understand "what" direction to go in, but am
>I really coding this damn thing right, and why is it not working for me?).
>Making bread, and learning to fish, are are about as relevant to a new
>carpenter as is basic accounting.
>
>Just a few thoughts......
>
>
>Walt.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>   Just gonna do stock (gm) ones.
>>   The aftermarket flames aren't worth wasting the band width on.  Seems
>like
>> when I broached that all folks wound up doing were looking to bad mouth
>the
>> chip folks, while generally true, just went over board, IMO, and we got
>> enough good stuff that I would perfer to stick with the originals.
>>    I'm not really into sharing custom bins, kinda like making bread and
>> learning to fish,  once ya get into it, no biggy.   Too many folks seem to
>> be looking at times just to get close, and miss getting it right.
>>    If anyone has any hacs or related material I would be more then willing
>> to include that in the library.
>>    Just having a BCC is fine, what helps is knowing the ecm part no., if
>you
>> include the mask no, that would save alot of work,  the  labeling I'm
>using
>> is like  AMUR1234 42.bin,  so just looking at the file name, we can ID it
>as
>> a 747 bin file.
>>    if you included a .txt with application (ie engine, tranny, final
>drive,
>> platform), that would be spectacular.
>>    Just sent the stuff to me for organizing,  if longer then 2 Meg please
>> let me know it's coming, anything less, just hit send, bright.net is at
>> times moody, but usually OK.
>>    EVERTHING IN .BIN format please.
>>    The vast majority of folks are using that.
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> > Do you want just OE CAL's, or do you also want some aftermarket
>commercial
>> > tuner CAL's too?  Where's the deposit bag located?   How about
>> > custom/private hac'd CAL's?   Just GM, or other's as well?  Can we tag a
>> CAL
>> > file on the end of an E-Mail description of same, and not have the
>message
>> > turned back due to "attachments" present?
>> >
>> > Assuming you are filing these CAL's in some categorical fashion, you'll
>> need
>> > to know at a minimum???.......1) ECM/PCM/Controller base P/N and
>> description
>> > 2)base MEMCAL broadcast code, or P/N if known, and description if known
>> > 3)complete file checksum, and byte size    4)description of what the
>CAL's
>> > for/from    5)description of major changes/compilations    6)binary
>> format,
>> > or do you care?   7)mask ID.
>> >
>> > Anything else that contributors should also include to make your life
>> > easier?
>> >
>> > Thanks for all of your work Bruce!
>> >
>> >
>> > Walt.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Ludis has generously shared his files with us.
>> > > He even had the organized by ecm saving me a huge amount of work.
>> > > I'd like to publicly Thank him for this.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, we're almost at the 1,000 mark!.
>> > >
>> > > Whoda thought
>> > > Bruce
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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