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I doubt he'll be writting me back, so this probably is the final =
comment.
I just find it interesting how some folks skate around things.
I'd sure like to know if there was any truth to the rumors that:
1)The guy behind Kalmaker (or a close friend), used to work for GM.
2)He left for lunch one day with a arm full of GM hardware
Wouldn't that me a giggle
Bruce
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bruce Plecan=20
Cc: nacelp=20
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
Please Bruce , stop this agro,=20
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Not arguing, just stating fact, there is a difference
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You have an awful hangup with the money side of things.
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You sir have the money hang up. What I do is free, not for profit, =
can you say the same?. If not then, you've got the money hang up....
=20
Please I'm not trying to sell you any thing, but as you suggest I'm =
not about to give it away.
If it was more reasonably priced, you'd sell alot more of them. Then =
why are you writting me?, oh that's right you want free info from me soo =
you can make a profit, gee, wonder why I feel insulted?... =20
I simply wrote you explaining a system that we are using which may be =
of interest to you. I didnt actually mean you might be interested in =
buying, but that you maybe interested in the workings of it seeing that =
thats what you're into, but all you've managed to do is slag the =
absolute crap out of it and me. I thought you may like to ask some =
questions etc.
guestions about what?. Your web page pretty well described the =
system, just that it also left out the sytems short comings, which you =
still ignore, and won't comment about.
I normally wouldnt have replied to your first reply simply branding =
you as a tosser, but as our software is not just the usual GM standard =
adjustable stuff, I thought I'd give you another go, but now you've even =
slammed me for that.
You're misinterpreting things. If you dont want to look , listen, =
learn, then thats your problem.
If I misinterpreted something please then tell me what?. =20
Oh, and remember the original letter was about looking for information =
that you wanted me to give you. Your smoke screen is too thin to hide =
behind.=20
To me it doesnt matter how much one already knows , there's still =
plenty to learn, and I'm sure there would have been 1 or 2 things of =
interest to you.
Such as?.
I've read about Kalmaker for several years now, and about all it's =
claims. It was even taken off of the market for a while which left all =
it's users high and dry. =20
No one has tried more then I to learn about ecms/pcms/tcms, then I. I =
have to read things numerous times to learn something, so while you =
might dismiss me as being ignorant about Kalmaker, I might now a whole =
lot more about it then you think.... =20
Most of the people in the USA that have Kalmaker Street Pro 2 and also =
the others there that ask me about it are astounded by it and they use =
all soughts of software that you mention, which they are able to compare =
with, so I do get to see quite abit of it and get feedback about others. =
I'm always on the lookout for new good software.
Sorry to have bothered you.
Can I have a few email addresses then?. Maybe they are astonded =
because they happen to be short on information about their options!!!.
No bother, feel free to write at anytime, when you have a new and =
improved system, or truely want to learn something. =20
Oh, BTW here in the states the 165 has been updated several times =
due to it's high failure rate, the 1227730 is a much better option. =20
Even that won't correct your retail sales prices, thou
Too bad the States Distributor deal fell thru.
Sincerely
Bruce
Goodbye
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bruce Plecan=20
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
****You wrote me, remember****.
I looked what **you** had to offer, and just compared the info =
**you** supplied to the info I have on hand. If you want me to know =
more about it, send me a setup to play with. Oh, that's right you =
contributions stop with the $$$$$$$$. Oh well. For getting snide with =
you comments, if you don't want to discuss things, fine, see if I care. =
If you're not open to critisism, that even tells me more about how =
you look at times. Maybe your used to dealing with some folks that =
don't know what options are available, and they have to hang on your =
sage advise, which is fine, but don't get in a huff with me over, me not =
wanting to write a check for $600, to buy your system. Calm down, and =
take a close look at things, and you might be alot more objective. See, =
you looking at it with your ego all twisted around the $$$ side of it. =
Personally I don't care two hoots about which system I use, since I have =
a selection, I can be indepentent in what I *want* to use. You'd perfer =
that ever EFIer in the world would sent you money, I have no steak in =
any of it. I get no kick backs from Tunercat, GMEPro, or TTS. I can =
use anything I want and recommend what works or doesn't work with =
worring about what I say. =20
Well, have fun,=20
Cheers
Bruce
----- Original Message -----=20
To: Bruce Plecan=20
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
Bruce , I've seen Tunercat and GMEPRO. I dont critisise others, =
but you have sentenced Kalmaker without a trial, which says alot about =
your DIY EFI mob. You'd be surprised if you looked ...........chalk and =
cheese.
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bruce Plecan=20
Cc: nacelp=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
I'm a little confused here as at first I thought I was =
contributing to you.=20
=20
I don't see where or how
=20
I think there must be some confusion here and I will try and =
clear it up.=20
Kalmaker Street Pro 2 was released approx 5 years ago and =
was/is intended for single users ie individuals, and this is the version =
I'm referring to, and its present price is $1000 Australian which is =
under $600 US which includes modified ECM. There is very little =
available in the US under $2000 US that comes within a Bulls roar of =
Kalmaker.
No offence or "mines better than yours" intended
I can buy tunercat for $100, and an emulator for $150, and do =
about the same as your $600 outfit. 250 vs 600, that's alot of money to =
me.
I think you may have heard of the professional version of =
Kalmaker called DynoCal. This was approx $25000 but included all sorts =
of equipment and software for several models all in one. It certainly =
was very expensive and most people treated it the same way as you except =
for the serious. It was also owned by a big Co. not the guy that writes =
it, that has since changed .
I have seen some and read about some of the software you are =
possibly referring to in the US, and you mention it being transferable =
from ecm to ecm. Please this is not a competition. Please understand I'm =
not trying to argue, but as you are probably aware the software is =
different from ecm to ecm and pcm, some of it may be transferable , but =
Kalmaker is Full on software in the fact it includes everything the =
factory includes in each individual ecm/pcm (as they all have different =
capabilities)plus quite a lot of extra fancy bits . Therefore each =
program is ecm specific.
=20
Your's takes a modified ecm, that makes it specific as I see =
it. Using and editor and emulator means that an individual can use it =
on any say 90-92 (v-8) Camaro vette or firebird. =20
=20
The guy that writes it doesn't do it to be king, he does it =
because (apart from being a total nut) he is totally enthralled and =
fascinated with it all ( probably in a similar way to you) and is a =
petrolhead from way back. He has spent the last several years totally =
devoted to writing this with no other income.=20
=20
He's lucky being able to make an income doing what he likes to =
do.
=20
I feel privileged we have guys like him on this planet. It =
doesn't bother me whether he is Australian , American or Iranian, the =
point is there is someone making it very easy for me to reprogram =
(some)( at this point of time) Delco computers perfectly to suit very =
customized engines and this is what I thought I was contributing to you. =
I certainly wasn't having a go at you.
Offering to sell me something is no contribution. That's =
marketing.
I have a full hac, of the 808, so while for the moment I can't =
do on the fly changes, I'm $600 richer. If I was to use a 165 with my =
"system", I can get a spare ecm at the wreckers for $40, if one should =
fail.
So when you say Kalmaker falls to,not even in the running for =
price and function, I don't quite understand what you mean.=20
=20
Way too expensive. As I understand it, you real big claim to =
fame is using the ALDL port for hook up. The other way isn't as pretty. =
This is no issue to me. For the money my works just fine thank you. =
There are some hac's floating around on the need, the formulaes are =
available, eprom emulators cost $150. So actually with a spare memcal, =
and emulator, you can do the changes. Just not packaged as pretty as =
yours. =20
=20
When you mention prototype on the fly, that is what I call =
real-time, as in when you change fuel or spark etc in laptop the engine =
responds exactly at that moment seamlessly with no jumps or hiccups. =
Please read my Tuning tips in the Kalmaker section of my web page.
I hear what you're saying about the EFI community and about =
helping people for free. I cant remember whether it was on your page or =
the ECMGUY's page where it mentioned a great software package for only =
$2000=20
=20
I haven't a clue about what mention of what $2000 system you =
mean. Tunercat stuff is about $100 for the first editor, and $20 for =
each different application after that. GMEPRO is $200, and the Turbo =
Shop stuff is $350. Then there is the the freeware stuff, that's =
scattered about.
=20
and yet you slam ours thats only $600 to you. As I say I =
thought I was contributing to you. I help EFI guys get what they want.=20
The one thing I try to promote in the EFI industry is =
friendliness and help. I certainly do not try to be an elitist .
There is a difference between offering a service, and =
contibuting, IMHO
Bruce
Please feel free to email with any questions or help
Regards
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bruce Plecan=20
Cc: nacelp=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
Hi Bruce, I was quite fascinated with your site and the =
work that has gone into it. I dont have alot of experience on hacking, =
as when I first started 5 or 6 years ago I found a recent sotware =
package just released then called Kalmaker.
Recent 5-6 years ago, or are you talking about kalmaker =
being rereleased?.
You may have heard of it. It is Australian and back then =
it was for only our local ecm which is similar to the 1227165.
I was running a 400 Chev with TPI fitted running the =
1227165 with MAF meter which needed reprogramming.
It was very easy to convert to MAP sensor and run this new =
Kalmaker software with what I had.
After using it I realised its worth as it is 3 packages in =
1.
First its written in Plain English with easily adjustable =
bars etc( no Hex), second, in a way it is an emulator and 3rd it is in =
Real Time.
To this day I havent seen anything else like it. This is =
the reason I dont know much Hex .
The major drawback with it as far as you guys would be =
concerned is (as yet) it doesnt suit your model ecm and pcm's.
It is perfect for Hot rods or street machines or engine =
transpalnts in general.
Here in the states we have several prom editor vendors, =
and with anyone of them and a prom emulator we can do about real time =
emulation. Prototype on the fly ecm specific hardware/ software is under =
evaluation. Which all is much cheaper the Kalmaker, and is transferable =
from ecm to ecm. So Kalmaker falls to, not even in the running for =
price and function. =20
Since those days I have become the Distributor of the =
Kalmaker "Street Pro 2" package and I will put my web address at the =
bottom of this email.
I have a major update coming in the next 2 weeks approx =
with all the latest info.
=20
Hope it goes well for you, Kalmaker has burnt it's bridge =
with me thou. After all the noise they rasied at DIY_EFI several years =
ago, they are less then thieves, IMHO. =20
One of our projects at the moment which you may be able to =
help me with is, we are adapting the DIS coil pak ignition from the S10 =
4 cyl Chev on to import Jap turbo engines. This ignition module has the =
same 4x interface wiring as the TPI engines etc do ie Ref Hi, Ref Lo, =
Bypass, and EST. All our Australian models use this as well, meaning =
that the module itself has the smarts to work out which coil to fire, =
whereas with some models the smarts are in the ecm/pcm itself and the =
crank sensor is wired straught to the ecm.
Why would I want to help you?.
I'll do all I can for someone that CONTRIBUTES to EFI =
society, but in your case you come out of the wood work asking for help =
to help to make money, Hahahaha.....
This leads to where I'm heading, I have been looking for a =
V8 version of this which led me to the LT 5 Corvette, which has exactly =
what I want. Then I found the info on the diy efi gm ecm page showing =
the manuals tec which was fantastic, except for the price of the all the =
parts required. Ouch.!
Do you know of any other V8 modules similar to this.
If I did, why would I want to help you?.
The Cadillac Northstar uses one but thats all i know. =
Where could I found out more info on this?
GM shop manual?.
The beauty of the LT 5 system is also with the crank =
trigger which is very basic as with the S10.
Some units have a very difficult to reproduce crank =
trigger.
Any help on this matter would be much appreciated.
I'm sure it would be.
This all means that if all this works we can run the LS 1, =
LT 1 etc or Fords or whatever very easily on our 16176424 PCM which we =
also have the software to totally recalibrate the 4L60E trans as well.
I have done several TPI's with 4L60E trans with low gears =
and its fascinating reprogramming all the shift points, line pressures, =
shift times and TCC lockups. Theres lots to learn but you can =
concentrate on how the software/hardware works and not have to learn all =
the hex addresses etc on top of that.
My web address is http://xx xx xx.com.au . I hope you =
enjoy it and I look forward to you comments.
ps we hope to have the full software for the LS 1 in =
approx 12 months as we now use this engine here in Oz too.
Feel free to write me at any time after you decide to =
become a contributing member of the EFI community. As for making a buck =
from others work, again good luck.
If you care to subscribe to the gmecm or DIY_EFI, lists =
feel free to ask me for help, if you decide to contribute to the effort. =
Course takers usually don't really want to help anyone.=20
HTH
Bruce=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I doubt he'll be writting me back, so =
this probably=20
is the final comment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just find it interesting how some =
folks skate=20
around things.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd sure like to know if there was any =
truth to=20
the rumors that:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1)The guy behind Kalmaker (or a close =
friend), used=20
to work for GM.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2)He left for lunch one day with a arm =
full of GM=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wouldn't that me a giggle</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"; title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>Bruce =
Plecan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"=20
title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>nacelp</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 16, 2000 10:17 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Kalmaker software</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Please Bruce , stop this agro, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not arguing, just stating fact, there =
is a=20
difference</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You have an awful hangup with the money side of=20
things.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You sir have the money hang up. =
What I do=20
is free, not for profit, can you say the same?. If not then, =
you've got=20
the money hang up....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Please I'm not trying to sell you any =
thing, but=20
as you suggest I'm not about to give it away.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If it was more reasonably priced, =
you'd sell alot=20
more of them. Then why are you writting me?, oh =
that's right=20
you want free info from me soo you can make a profit, gee, wonder why =
I feel=20
insulted?... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I simply wrote you explaining a system that we are =
using=20
which may be of interest to you. I didnt actually mean you might be =
interested=20
in buying, but that you maybe interested in the workings of it seeing =
that=20
thats what you're into, but all you've managed to do is slag the =
absolute crap=20
out of it and me. I thought you may like to ask some =
questions=20
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>guestions about what?. Your web =
page pretty=20
well described the system, just that it also left out the sytems short =
comings, which you still ignore, and won't comment about.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I normally wouldnt have replied to your first =
reply simply=20
branding you as a tosser, but as our software is not just the =
usual GM=20
standard adjustable stuff, I thought I'd give you another go, but =
now=20
you've even slammed me for that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You're misinterpreting things. If you dont want to =
look ,=20
listen, learn, then thats your problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I misinterpreted something please =
then tell me=20
what?. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, and remember the original letter =
was about=20
looking for information that you wanted me to give you. Your =
smoke=20
screen is too thin to hide behind. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>To me it doesnt matter how much one already =
knows ,=20
there's still plenty to learn, and I'm sure there would have been 1 or =
2=20
things of interest to you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Such as?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've read about Kalmaker for several =
years now,=20
and about all it's claims. It was even taken off of the market =
for a=20
while which left all it's users high and dry. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No one has tried more then I to learn =
about=20
ecms/pcms/tcms, then I. I have to read things numerous times=20
to learn something, so while you might dismiss me as being =
ignorant=20
about Kalmaker, I might now a whole lot more about it then you=20
think.... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Most of the people in the USA that have Kalmaker =
Street Pro=20
2 and also the others there that ask me about it are astounded by it =
and they=20
use all soughts of software that you mention, which they are able to =
compare=20
with, so I do get to see quite abit of it and get feedback about =
others. I'm=20
always on the lookout for new good software.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sorry to have bothered you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I have a few email addresses =
then?. =20
Maybe they are astonded because they happen to be short on information =
about=20
their options!!!.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No bother, feel free to write at =
anytime, when=20
you have a new and improved system, or truely want to learn =
something. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Oh, BTW here in the =
states the 165=20
has been updated several times due to it's high failure rate, the =
1227730 is a=20
much better option. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Even that won't correct =
your retail=20
sales prices, thou</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Too bad the States =
Distributor deal=20
fell thru.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sincerely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Goodbye</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"; title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>Bruce =
Plecan</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 15, 2000 =
9:55=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Kalmaker =
software</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> ****You wrote me,=20
remember****.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I looked what **you** had to =
offer, and=20
just compared the info **you** supplied to the info I have on =
hand. If=20
you want me to know more about it, send me a setup to play =
with. Oh,=20
that's right you contributions stop with the $$$$$$$$. =
Oh=20
well. For getting snide with you comments, if you don't want =
to=20
discuss things, fine, see if I care. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If you're not open to =
critisism, that=20
even tells me more about how you look at times. Maybe your =
used to=20
dealing with some folks that don't know what options are available, =
and they=20
have to hang on your sage advise, which is fine, but don't get in a =
huff=20
with me over, me not wanting to write a check for $600, to buy your=20
system. Calm down, and take a close look at things, and you =
might be=20
alot more objective. See, you looking at it with your ego all =
twisted=20
around the $$$ side of it. Personally I don't care two hoots =
about=20
which system I use, since I have a selection, I can be indepentent =
in what I=20
*want* to use. You'd perfer that ever EFIer in the world would =
sent=20
you money, I have no steak in any of it. I get no kick backs =
from=20
Tunercat, GMEPro, or TTS. I can use anything I want and=20
recommend what works or doesn't work with worring about what I =
say. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Well, have fun, =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"; title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>Bruce =
Plecan</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 15, =
2000 9:22=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Kalmaker =
software</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bruce , I've seen Tunercat and GMEPRO. I dont =
critisise=20
others, but you have sentenced Kalmaker without a trial, which =
says alot=20
about your DIY EFI mob. You'd be surprised if you looked =
...........chalk=20
and cheese.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"; =
title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>Bruce=20
Plecan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"; =
title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>nacelp</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 14, =
2000=20
11:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Kalmaker=20
software</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm a little confused here as at first I =
thought I=20
was contributing to you. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't see where or =
how</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I think there must be some confusion here =
and I will=20
try and clear it up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Kalmaker Street Pro 2 was released approx =
5 years=20
ago and was/is intended for single users ie individuals, and =
this is=20
the version I'm referring to, and its present price is $1000=20
Australian which is under $600 US which includes modified ECM. =
There=20
is very little available in the US under $2000 US that comes =
within a=20
Bulls roar of Kalmaker.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>No offence or "mines better than yours"=20
intended</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can buy tunercat for $100, =
and an=20
emulator for $150, and do about the same as your $600 =
outfit. =20
250 vs 600, that's alot of money to me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I think you may have heard of the =
professional=20
version of Kalmaker called DynoCal. This was approx $25000 but =
included all sorts of equipment and software for several =
models all in=20
one. It certainly was very expensive and most people treated =
it the=20
same way as you except for the serious. It was also owned by a =
big Co.=20
not the guy that writes it, that has since changed =
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have seen some and read about some of =
the software=20
you are possibly referring to in the US, and you mention it =
being=20
transferable from ecm to ecm. Please this is not a =
competition. Please=20
understand I'm not trying to argue, but as you are probably =
aware the=20
software is different from ecm to ecm and pcm, some of it may =
be=20
transferable , but Kalmaker is Full on software in the fact it =
includes everything the factory includes in each individual =
ecm/pcm=20
(as they all have different capabilities)plus quite a lot of =
extra=20
fancy bits . Therefore each program is ecm =
specific.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your's takes a modified ecm, =
that makes=20
it specific as I see it. Using and editor and emulator =
means=20
that an individual can use it on any say 90-92 (v-8) Camaro =
vette or=20
firebird. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> The guy that writes it doesn't do it =
to be=20
king, he does it because (apart from being a total nut) he is =
totally=20
enthralled and fascinated with it all ( probably in a similar =
way to=20
you) and is a petrolhead from way back. He has spent the last =
several=20
years totally devoted to writing this with no other income.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He's lucky being able to make =
an income=20
doing what he likes to do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I feel privileged we have guys like him on =
this=20
planet. It doesn't bother me whether he is Australian , =
American or=20
Iranian, the point is there is someone making it very easy for =
me to=20
reprogram (some)( at this point of time) Delco computers =
perfectly to=20
suit very customized engines and this is what I thought I was=20
contributing to you. I certainly wasn't having a go at=20
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Offering to sell me something =
is no=20
contribution. That's marketing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a full hac, of the =
808, so while=20
for the moment I can't do on the fly changes, I'm $600 =
richer. =20
If I was to use a 165 with my "system", I can get a spare ecm =
at the=20
wreckers for $40, if one should fail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So when you say Kalmaker falls to,not even =
in the=20
running for price and function, I don't quite understand what =
you=20
mean. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Way too expensive. As I =
understand=20
it, you real big claim to fame is using the ALDL port for hook =
up. The other way isn't as pretty. This is no =
issue=20
to me. For the money my works just fine thank you. =
There=20
are some hac's floating around on the need, the formulaes are=20
available, eprom emulators cost $150. So actually =
with a=20
spare memcal, and emulator, you can do the changes. Just =
not=20
packaged as pretty as yours. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>When you mention prototype on the fly, =
that is what=20
I call real-time, as in when you change fuel or spark etc in =
laptop=20
the engine responds exactly at that moment seamlessly with no =
jumps or=20
hiccups. Please read my Tuning tips in the Kalmaker section of =
my web=20
page.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I hear what you're saying about the EFI =
community=20
and about helping people for free. I cant remember whether it =
was on=20
your page or the ECMGUY's page where it mentioned a great =
software=20
package for only $2000 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I haven't a clue about what =
mention of=20
what $2000 system you mean. Tunercat stuff is about $100 =
for the=20
first editor, and $20 for each different application after =
that. =20
GMEPRO is $200, and the Turbo Shop stuff is $350. Then =
there is=20
the the freeware stuff, that's scattered about.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and yet you slam ours thats only =
$600 to you.=20
As I say I thought I was contributing to you. I help EFI guys =
get what=20
they want. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The one thing I try to promote in the EFI =
industry=20
is friendliness and help. I certainly do not try to be an=20
elitist .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>There is a difference between offering a =
service,=20
and contibuting, IMHO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Please feel free to email with any =
questions or=20
help</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"; =
title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>Bruce=20
Plecan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:nacelp@bright.net"; =
title=3Dnacelp@bright.net>nacelp</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June =
14, 2000=20
9:36 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Kalmaker =
software</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Bruce, I was quite fascinated with =
your site=20
and the work that has gone into it. I dont have alot of =
experience=20
on hacking, as when I first started 5 or 6 years ago I =
found a=20
recent sotware package just released then called=20
Kalmaker.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Recent 5-6 years ago, or =
are you=20
talking about kalmaker being rereleased?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You may have heard of it. It is =
Australian and=20
back then it was for only our local ecm which is similar =
to the=20
1227165.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I was running a 400 Chev with TPI =
fitted running=20
the 1227165 with MAF meter which needed=20
reprogramming.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It was very easy to convert to MAP =
sensor and=20
run this new Kalmaker software with what I =
had.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>After using it I realised its worth as =
it is 3=20
packages in 1.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>First its written in Plain English =
with easily=20
adjustable bars etc( no Hex), second, in a way it is an =
emulator=20
and 3rd it is in Real Time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>To this day I havent seen anything =
else like it.=20
This is the reason I dont know much Hex .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The major drawback with it as far as =
you guys=20
would be concerned is (as yet) it doesnt suit your model =
ecm and=20
pcm's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It is perfect for Hot rods or street =
machines or=20
engine transpalnts in general.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Here in the states we have several =
prom editor=20
vendors, and with anyone of them and a prom emulator we =
can do=20
about real time emulation. Prototype on the fly ecm =
specific=20
hardware/ software is under evaluation. Which all is =
much=20
cheaper the Kalmaker, and is transferable from ecm to =
ecm. =20
So Kalmaker falls to, not even in the running for price =
and=20
function. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Since those days I have become the =
Distributor=20
of the Kalmaker "Street Pro 2" package and I will put my =
web=20
address at the bottom of this email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have a major update coming in the =
next 2 weeks=20
approx with all the latest info.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope it goes well for =
you, Kalmaker=20
has burnt it's bridge with me thou. After all the =
noise they=20
rasied at DIY_EFI several years ago, they are less then=20
thieves, IMHO. </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>One of our projects at the moment =
which you may=20
be able to help me with is, we are adapting the DIS coil =
pak=20
ignition from the S10 4 cyl Chev on to import Jap turbo =
engines.=20
This ignition module has the same 4x interface wiring as =
the TPI=20
engines etc do ie Ref Hi, Ref Lo, Bypass, and EST. All our =
Australian models use this as well, meaning that the =
module itself=20
has the smarts to work out which coil to fire, whereas =
with some=20
models the smarts are in the ecm/pcm itself and the crank =
sensor=20
is wired straught to the ecm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why would I want to help =
you?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'll do all I can for someone that =
CONTRIBUTES=20
to EFI society, but in your case you come out of the wood =
work=20
asking for help to help to make money, =
Hahahaha.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>This leads to where I'm heading, I =
have been=20
looking for a V8 version of this which led me to the LT 5=20
Corvette, which has exactly what I want. Then I found the =
info on=20
the diy efi gm ecm page showing the manuals tec which was=20
fantastic, except for the price of the all the parts =
required.=20
Ouch.!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Do you know of any other V8 modules =
similar to=20
this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I did, why would I =
want to help=20
you?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The Cadillac Northstar uses one but =
thats all i=20
know. Where could I found out more info on =
this?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GM shop =
manual?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The beauty of the LT 5 system is also =
with the=20
crank trigger which is very basic as with the =
S10.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Some units have a very difficult to =
reproduce=20
crank trigger.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Any help on this matter would be much=20
appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sure it would =
be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>This all means that if all this works =
we can run=20
the LS 1, LT 1 etc or Fords or whatever very easily on our =
16176424 PCM</FONT> <FONT size=3D2>which we also have =
the=20
software to totally recalibrate the 4L60E trans as=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have done several TPI's with 4L60E =
trans with=20
low gears and its fascinating reprogramming all the shift =
points,=20
line pressures, shift times and TCC lockups. Theres lots =
to learn=20
but you can concentrate on how the software/hardware works =
and not=20
have to learn all the hex addresses etc on top of=20
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>My web address is <A=20
href=3D"http://xx xx xx.com.au">http://xx xx xx.com.au</A> =
. I hope=20
you enjoy it and I look forward to you =
comments.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ps we hope to have the full software =
for the LS=20
1 in approx 12 months as we now use this engine here in Oz =
too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Feel free to write me at =
any time=20
after you decide to become a contributing member of the =
EFI=20
community. As for making a buck from others work, =
again good=20
luck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you care to subscribe =
to the gmecm=20
or DIY_EFI, lists feel free to ask me for help, if you =
decide to=20
contribute to the effort. Course takers usually =
don't really=20
want to help anyone. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HTH</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
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